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Re: [xmlblaster] Callback message queue fills up

Could it be related to the fact that the message is published by a plugin? David

David R Robison wrote:
I don't see any routing information even though I know that it is being routed from one node to another. Do I need to turn it on some way? I am looking at the updateQos in the callback, should the route be there?
Thanks, David

Marcel Ruff wrote:
David Robison wrote:
I think part of the problem might be that the subscriptions, even when you specify a domain, are not domain specific. What I mean is that a user connected to B subscribes to messages for a domain that is mastered on A. However, when the subscription is forwarded to A, it matches messages from all domains, even those generated on B and sent to A. Does this make sense? Could this be part of the problem?
It boils down to the question if the oid and domain are ANDed?
(B is slave, A is master of "Sport")

B-client: subscribe( oid="Hello" domain="Sport" )
-> ends up in A as A is master of "Sport"

A-client: publish( oid="Hello" domain="" )
-> is matched in A and forwarded to B and then to B-client

So, as you mentioned, the domain is not ANDed.
But i still can't see this as the reason for your filled up callback queue.

If a published message is forwarded to another cluster node you will
see something like
<node id='B' stratum='1' timestamp='1196151343160000000' dirtyRead='false'/>
<node id='A' stratum='0' timestamp='1196151343164000000' dirtyRead='false'/>
in the publishQos.

best regards,



    *From:* David R Robison [mailto:drrobison at openroadsconsulting.com]
    *To:* xmlblaster at server.xmlBlaster.org
    *Sent:* Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:41:10 -0500
    *Subject:* Re: [xmlblaster] Callback message queue fills up

    Here is a dunp of one of the messages:

    <MsgUnit index='0'>

    <key oid='DomainHeartbeat-Albemarle911' contentMime='text/xml'
    contentMimeExtended='1.0' domain='Albemarle911'/>
    <content size='46'>Domain Albemarle911 ALIVE at 11/21/07

<subscribe id='__subId:StauntonSTC-XPATH1195628463329000000'/>
<expiration lifeTime='30000' remainingLife='22703'
<rcvTimestamp nanos='1195659482613000002'/>
<queue index='0' size='1'/>

The message was created on node B and sent to node A because of a
subscription on node A. But it is now in the callback queue on A
to go
back to B. Also, I have never seen the route data in the messages. Is
there a way to turn this on?


Marcel Ruff wrote:
> David R Robison wrote:
>> One other thought. Heartbeat messages are published on node B and
>> subscribed to by clients on node A. Also, there are clients on
node B
>> that subscribe to messages on node A. However, it appears that the
>> subscriptions the clients on node B are using are also matching
>> heartbeat messages from node B that have been sent to node A.
Could I
>> have some kind of circular queue? A message is posted on B then
>> to A because a subscription by a client on A. Then sent back to B
>> because of a subscription by a client on B for messages on A. Then
>> the message gets sent back to A and the whole cycle repeats?
> Could be, usually the cluster should prevent this ...
> The messages contain in their QoS the nodes traversed:
> <qos>
> <sender>joe</sender>
> <route>
> <node id='bilbo' stratum='2' timestamp='34460239640'/>
> <node id='frodo' stratum='1' timestamp='34460239661'/>
> <node id='heron' stratum='0' timestamp='34460239590'/>
> </route>
> </qos>
> it would be nice to see the dump of such messages,
> Use the jconsole or logging output from your receiving client or
use the
> message sniffer, e.g.:
> java javaclients.simplereader.SimpleReaderGui -xpath "//key"
> -session.name simpleReader -passwd secret -protocol SOCKET
> -dispatch/connection/plugin/socket/hostname
-dumpToFile true
> or peek the callback queue with administrative messages as
> in one of your last posts,
> thanks
> Marcel
>> Could this be possible? David
>> David R Robison wrote:
>>> Thanks, See in line...
>>> Marcel Ruff wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> do you have a jconsole to observe the two nodes?
>>> I don't have a jconsole, but can I get the same using the admin
>>> messages?
>>>> If yes, please check the number of subscriptions the node A has
>>>> forwarded to node B
>>>> (look into node B and check the number of subscriptions of
>>>> A) during such a case.
>>>> In case the subscribeQos has set
>>> I will check.
>>>> <multiSubscribe>true</multiSubscribe>
>>> I believe that we set all to false.
>>>> (which is the default) it could be that the subscriptions
>>>> during small connection errors and reconnects.
>>>> This is just a guess.
>>>> If it is the case please set multiSubscribe to false.
>>>> Is there a high CPU load during the 1001 message case?
>>> No
>>>> Are the hearbeat messages persistent messages?
>>> Yes, but the only live 30 seconds. At any given time there should
>>> only be at most 2 in the history queue
>>>> Was the client connected or offline during this message overflow?
>>> No, the client was online
>>>> Does your heartbeat have a unique id so that you can tell for
>>>> if the same
>>> No, but the content of the message has a timestamp so I knew they
>>> were duplicates
>>>> published message is cloned many times (try a peek on the
>>>> queue with jconsole)?
>>> Can this be done with the admin messages
>>>> A final option is to use the current svn xmlBlaster and
switch on
>>>> the checkpoint logging
>>>> to get a better idea what is going on.
>>> We will try this in house, unfortunately, the problem nodes
are in a
>>> production environment.
>>>> And finally it could be a problem with your client not taking
>>>> callback messages.
>>> Could be, but what I don't see is the queue gradually growing.
>>> Instead, it "all-of-a-sudden" appears to be full.
>>>> Another idea: The callback queue contains only a reference on
>>>> message.
>>>> If it expires the message-'meat' is destroyed but the reference
>>>> remains in the queue
>>>> until it is looked at during delivery (and then thrown to
>>>> Michele, could this be?
>>>> thanks
>>>> Marcel
>>>> David R Robison wrote:
>>>>> We are experiencing something strange in xmlBlaster 1.6.1.
We have
>>>>> two nodes, node A subscribes to messages from node B. These are
>>>>> heartbeat messages and are generated every 15 seconds with a
>>>>> lifetime of 30 seconds. A client connects to node A and
>>>>> to the messages, node A then passes the subscription onto
node B.
>>>>> Watching the callback message queue, everything seems to run
>>>>> at most 1 message in the queue waiting to be sent. It can
run like
>>>>> this for days. Then, unexpectedly, the callback queue will
show as
>>>>> being full (in this case 1001 messages). The queue contains
>>>>> duplicated messages with different timestamps. From there, the
>>>>> server struggles to deliver the messages and keep the queue
>>>>> The reader never seems to read enough messages to get the queue
>>>>> back down to zero. If I stop the client and reconnect, it will
>>>>> recreate its queue and be back to normal. I know this is a bit
>>>>> sketchy, but it is becoming a real problem for us.
>>>>> Any thoughts on what might be the problem? Any idea of where to
>>>>> start looking?
>>>>> One more note, when the client is subscribing to heartbeats
>>>>> are generated on Node A, the client never fails in this manor,
>>>>> only when it is subscribing to node A for a message
generated on
>>>>> node B.
>>>>> Thanks, in advance,
>>>>> David Robison

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David R Robison
Open Roads Consulting, Inc.
708 S. Battlefield Blvd., Chesapeake, VA 23322
phone: (757) 546-3401
e-mail: drrobison at openroadsconsulting.com
web: http://openroadsconsulting.com
blog: http://therobe.blogspot.com
book: http://www.xulonpress.com/book_detail.php?id=2579